Fire is powerful. The fire is Holy. God is a consuming fire. The Holy Ghost fire purifies us! He burns up all slag. At Pentecost fire fell down at them and they spoke in tongues. The Fire is of God. You can read it in Acts 2. Based on Acts 2. She have served ppl with food from one pot, so God is using her and that is God working, thus the Fire is from God. Malachi And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.
He can definetly come with such sensations. Giving life to dry bones.. Fire in those bones. Ezekiel… The Holy Spirit can fill us up this is biblical and make our cups run over. He gives us Oil of Joy Heb and Psalm Romans For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. I was only focusing on God. The Holy Spirit fixes our eyes on God. God makes me laugh in joy sometimes, but not laughing as in laying on the floor laughing uncontrollably.
God makes me laugh in joy, rejoicing like normal laughing. I felt purity. I weep sometimes for no reason. Sometimes we weep for our Sins uncontrollably. Crying can come from God. My mum got a call once from someone whose infant was dying. She got great distress and just cried uncontrollably and prayed to God. Then they called and the infant was healed. You have just described the unholy spirit by twisting biblical scripture to suit your purposes.
You are wrapped up in the signs and wonders and not looking at what is behind them. I think young people should we warned about these two organizations see bottom ,run by the same man. I was a student and member there for a few years and when I walked out of there, I realized that I was scarred for life. Thanks to the content and the beautiful people that are involved here at discerningtheworld, I have found hope and the maps needed for restoration. I would like to post this anonymously because I still have friends involved there. I pray that you find peace over what has happened to you, but realize that it was for a reason that it happened that way.
You will put this experience you have had to good use one day soon when you need to witness to someone and preach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Thank you for you kind words about this website, you nearly brought tears to my eyes. Regarding those websites, they are New Apostolic Reformation through and through. I might even do an article on them seeing that they are so wide spread across the world even! Anon, I had never heard of the organizations you referred to. What a subtle deception!
They seem to me to be a blend between emergent thought and dominionism with the prophetic garbage thrown in. I stressed on another thread the importance of discipling new converts and the appalling lack of it. But if one thinks about it, the state of apostasy of the Church today is like the blind leading the blind. Thank the Lord He brought you out of these lies and it shows the value of the ministry the Lord has entrusted to Deborah. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
In that day the deaf will hear the words of the scroll, and out of gloom and darkness the eyes of the blind will see. Isaiah John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Luke Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Luke Tarry On Then. This is a beautiful site you have here. It is the middle of the night and I must stop reading, but have enjoyed my visit here! I have bookmarked you, and plan to return to read everything else. Thank you so much. At first I thought it was from God. I have to admit though, that I find it difficult not to be sarcastic when I come over characters like Hinn.
Thanks for another great expose, Deborah. I am amazed at this article. I am in total agreement how do you know the false prophets from the false ones? I have had my sincere doubts about strange fire being in a church I have attended. I do not want to be fooled by the enemy. Because the ministers of satan probably do not even know they are ministers of satan. People who are are deceivers and who deceive, and even possible the elect, do not know they are deceivers.
I pray quite frquently not to become one of these. Now I do not want to be fooled by one either. So, what do you do today. That is exactly what I want to do. But I also want to love God with all I am and love other people. People think this is all you must do. God help us all who love Jesus christ and have been called by His Name, to walk as He did. Help us oh Father to be bold and courageous full of love and mercy but know when we have to shake the dust off of our feet.
Help us not to compromise or be presumptuous Lord Jesus. Remove all that is false and help us to live in the truth and walk and abide in the true vine… Thank you my beloved Lord and Savior.. Cat, this is the prayer of all sincere lovers of truth and sound doctrine. It is getting more and more difficult to stand for truth as so many have succumbed to the dark side. You are right, we must be vigilant and we must sound the warning to anyone who will listen. We are to mark and avoid false teachers which equates to saking off the dust and moving on if they refuse to listen.
I was going to Calvary Chapel. About a year ago one Sunday the pastor said to be there Wed night to get a baptism of the holy spirit and experince increased power in your life. I want that! The CD sat in my car for all this time. I stopped going to this church about 6 months ago after realizing they are ecumenical and supportive of contemplative methods — I had a very interesting e-mail exchange with the pastor expressing my concerns and after he explained his beliefs I never went back.
I am so glad that I did not go to that Wed night service. On the CD, the pastor said that every Christian should strive for a baptism of the holy spirit — after he admitted that this is a very controversial subject. He explained that you may experience something right away or later and that it can be very intense, empowering, life changing! I thought of Matthew where Jesus said that an evil and adulterus generation looks for a sign. I believe we receive the Holy Spirit as soon as we accept Jesus as our savior.
As we increase our walk with Jesus and read the Bible and pray and surrender, yield, to Him, the Holy Spirits guides us, comforts us, teaches us. The discernment and strength of the Holy Spirit will not be there. We are not called to ask for a baptism of the Holy Spirit. I believe this is just another experienced based, signs and wonders deception that is going on the church. Right up there with contemplative prayer, breath prayers, lectio devina, etc.
A friend of mine described a channeling session to meet her guardian angel where she saw bright flashes of light. I told her that is from demons. She said nothing bad comes from light! I told her that the Bible says that Satan presents himself as an angel of light.
She told me that I am in fear! It was so surreal to be told in person the things that I had researched in books and online. And now we have evagelical leaders telling us that we must strive for baptism of the holy spirit, that we must learn spiritual formation Frank Pastore show on KKLA a couple weeks ago. The spirit of the anti-christ is alive and well in our world. Christ in his Spirit form does not deceive people like Satan does.
Christians beware of Kundalini, do not be deceived by Satan. Does no one here seem to realize that the Word Kundalini is simply a Word to represent the same thing as the Holy Spirit just from another cultures view of it? I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with Fire: Matthew Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? John For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. Acts Can you not see that the Third Eye is the Blind Ear…Please People think about it, its so simple yet it seems to evade you.
What will it take…. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation;but is passed from death unto life. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and Mammon. Matthew I am allowing your comment because I have never seen an occultist quote the bible quite like you have. Totally out of context. You do not understand the verses of Matthew that you quoted. Luke ; 23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Luke ;. Wealth will leave everyone sooner rather than later and leave everyone wordly poor. People are so inclined that their hearts will be set on that place where they their riches are laid up. Worldly sinners lay their riches on earth, Christians lay their riches in Heaven.
The wordly person will gather everything here on earth and when they die and be poor for eternity. We need to set a single eye for the glory of God, an eye that will discern His will and obey His commandments as we walk with His Holy Spirit genuine one, not the false holy spirit. If people turn AWAY to other paths of self, they will go into willful darkness and lose their way. You think you know the truth, you do not. You believe a lie, fables! Or am I misunderstanding this completely? It is incredibly sad how satan can fool people..
Thanks, I am still gonna do a bit more with the Keywords on the side to make it a bit easier to read. And to think they have the audacity to use the bible nogal the KJV version LOL to try and backup their occult teaching. I am sorry to tell you but there is a false version of Christianity out there and it manifests itself in speaking in unknown gibberish called tongues, visions, and other strange things.
Genuine Christianity does not behave like this. I saw the conversation in general go into a discussion of worshipping money which I realize was a comment to a scripture he put up there … but that seems to be off topic in general. That would just be ridiculous.
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with Fire: Matthew —- Question mainly, if fire is all from satan, what the fire that John is speaking of? Acts —- Again, this is showing a clear baptism with the Holy Ghost… and the disciples were told not to leave until they had received this. Also, Jesus told them that this would empower them. When they arrived, they prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit had not yet come upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.
Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. Acts Then Ananias went to the house and entered it. He got up and was baptized, and after taking some food, he regained his strength. Saul spent several days with the disciples in Damascus. At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God. Acts While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus.
He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus. Also there is this scripture… warning us to be very careful upon critisizing the power of God. A House Divided Cannot Stand 20 Then the multitude came together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread. And then he will plunder his house.
And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, — 1 Corinthians This is not to unwittingly condemn anyone truly seeking the truth, but obviously there is something to the Holy Spirit. King David dances wildly, so much so that his undergarments are exposed. When his wife hates him because of his highly emotional behaviour towards the Lord, it is a shame on her, not David.
Throughout the Bible there are examples nearly too numerous to type here of the supernatural power of God. It knocks men backwards, forwards, and makes them appear drunk to others. Read the books of the prophets, the taking up into the third heaven of the Apostle Paul, the heavenly experiences of John in the Revelation of Jesus Christ… these are just a few examples. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever and He is no respector of persons.
He also requests that we earnestly seek and ask for all of the spiritual gifts listed to the Corinthian church. He gives good gifts to His children, and if we ask for bread, God will not give us a stone… He is a good Father. If you point out the roots of the people who have shaped your faith, I can probably trace them back to someone who believed very much in the supernatural performance of an Almight God who does not need our permission to act out in ways that we may think unconventional.
Had I gone to an evangelist when I was sick and asked for healing and they told me to go dip myself in a river three times and be healed, I would have thought that nuts in my natural mind. However, that happened with the leper and Elijah. It was Hannah, the mother of Samuel the one who anointed mighty kings who prayed so emotionally in the temple that the priest thought she was drunk and nearly cast her out.
Emotional is okay. People tore their clothes and fell to the ground in mourning all of the time in the Old Testament to honor God. Had they stood their stoically, scared of what others thought, and unmoved in their hearts, there is no indication that would have been pleasing to God. You can even study ancient worship in the Bible to see that the way God commands us to worship Him is very ecstatic and emotional.
I was saved in a baptist church, and now I am part of a non-denominational type of church… And I am free in Christ, to dance, to shout, to laugh, to cry, and to be quiet and still in His presence. He leads me in different ways at different times according to His good will. I have no idea what your worship life is like with God… so that may even be a mute point here with me assuming based on previous details of the writing. I say this from experience. I love my baptist church and the people where I was saved.
At first, I was automatically discharging it because it looked strange to me. I do know that the Word says many in the last days will have a form of godliness but deny its power. I, for one, do not accuse people of having unclean spirits to heed the warnings of Jesus unless I can biblically point out point per point from their own teachings that I am right and they are not. I see where you have not adequately done so by scripture.
I would love to see serious doctrinal, scriptural facts not just accusations, heresay, and opinions refuting the people you have so vehemently spoke against and called evil though. Seriously, the only reason for these topics to be deleted is out of inadequate preparation and wisdom to respond. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. So what we have here is a verse to supposedly back up the anointing by fire that so many pastors and false Christians and now New Agers like to quote to catch the fire anointing.
But let me show you something; this fire is seen in a bad way in the above verse. Fire is judgement! You need to make sure which Jesus you are following! If you seek you will find, if you want to know the truth you WILL find it. Please read the following articles: Speaking in Tongues has CEASED to understand that all the miracles and powers given to the Apostles by Jesus Christ and passed on was a temporary solution until such time as the bible was written. Then these things ceased. Are Prophets for Today or has Prophecy Ceased? This is just a general statement to anyone concerned.
Read the Bible for Yourself and Trust not the thoughts and opinions of others. As people we often try our best to understand these things and no person, preacher, or minister can be certain if they try and intepret the Word. The Word is to bring you to see the Truth for Yourself if you Read it. Some times Miracles and the Presence of the Holy Spirit is a hard thing to explain. There is no surprise over history God blessed certain Prophets with Miracles to show people and to reveal the existence of God to them.
The rest is an individual journey and to each his own. Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
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In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Colossians For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans They are not from God that much i am convinced of.
I have not finish reading all comments yet but will. I have much more to see before i discern, But when you said i will allow this comment. My spirit said ouch!!!! Yes spirit my spirit we all have one. GOD is our director not you!!!!!! MAYBE you wont publish this one but my purpose is not shame you but to gently correct you. I love you and so does GOD. Thank you for your efforts…. I need to actually take these scriptures and see what beliefs were twisted according to the word.
When i read my bible i have to read whatis before and after the verse quoted follow subject and object. This can take time. Deb can you please explain Mathew to me. Thanks for insulting me, much appreciated. Where did I insult you? No where. His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. So what we have here is a verse to supposedly back up the anointing by fire that so many pastors Binny Hinn, Todd Bentley, even Hillsong bands like to throw out to their audience as they gleefully catch the fire anointing.
John carries on saying that Jesus will gather His wheat into the barn BUT burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. How do you hold fast to the truth? You make sure everything you hear and see can be found in scripture obviously in the correct context as well. This is not an easy topic. I would suggest that the issue of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as a second experience is debatable and am sometimes perplexed as to why the Lord allowed scriptural support for both points of view, at least, by my reading. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? You forget about sound doctrine.
First you need to preach the Truth, then comes all these things. Do you? So, basically what you are saying in your comment is that you want us to agree with your view point. It does not work like that here. We are not Emergents. Why do I believe this? First off your spelling is atrocious. It is lose your pride. That argument is too, too old. What will you do with this verse Kristee? John Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Those are the words of Jesus Christ so be careful what you say when He says judge righteous judgment. Then in these verses Jesus said, Matthew Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Matthew Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Want to guess what that means? If I look upon an apple tree before I pick a apple I judge the fruit. Here is when we cannot judge. Romans Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
For example if I were to judge a fellow believer for coming to church drunk and said all sort of bad things about them but then I came to the church drunk too, then I would be inexcusable in my judgment. I want to suggest to you that you buy yourself a very good dictionary and use it. Then a Matthew Henry Commentary. When you prepare to study your Bible I hope you have a very reliable version.
But always pray before you read and ask the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth. Never take just a couple of verses to base your whole belief system on. You will end up taking those verses out of context. This is how scripture must be taught: Isaiah Whom shall he teach knowledge? Isaiah For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: I will not explain those two verses to you. Read and study them for yourself with a prayer to the Holy Spirit.
Grow in grace and knowledge of the Lord. Until you do, just read over the many articles on the web site. If you took women out of the false tongues movement it would die a quick death. You and I and all truth lovers know this my friend. But satan is running rampant and laughing at the false tongue churches. Cat, I hope and pray that you are no longer in the church you mentioned. You should run as fast and as far away from that place. If you continue there you could very well end up being deceived.
I too pray that I will never be deceived. Stay in the Word and ask the Holy Spirit himself to lead you into all truth. Make sure you have a very reliable version of scripture. John Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. It is a easy topic if you know and love the Holy Spirit. Romans But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Do you see that? How can a person say or even worse teach, I just received Jesus as my Savior but the Holy Spirit will indwell me at another time. Not according to the above verse. Even Christians are susceptible to being deceived. That tells me that it is possible for Christians to be deceived. Here is what James, the half-brother of Jesus, said about the tongue. James And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. James For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: Jamess But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
Last night I was reading in the book of Acts where Paul was standing before Agrippa and he was permitted to speak for himself.
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He related to Agrippa his salvation experience while on the road to Damascus. I noticed something very interesting in his oratory concerning him seeing and hearing Jesus. Acts And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? God spoke to Paul in Hebrew. God created at Babel and knows every language and dialect on this planet! Here is a verse of scripture that is sooooooo misunderstood by those that think they must speak in some gibberish when talking to God.
Romans Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
There have been a few times in my life that I was under such stress, such physical, mental and emotional anguish that when I would try to pray the words just would not come out of my mouth. But I did groan and cry. It was then that the Holy Spirit himself interceded for me to my Father in heaven. Nothing would come out of my mouth. Human nature is that man thinks he is smarter than God. Man wants to believe that we are in control of our human destiny and potential.
Well yes, He did. It is also in our old nature, the flesh, to want to feel good. We desire new experiences thinking it will make us closer to God. Faith is not about feelings and experiences. When we received Jesus as Savior, the Holy Spirit came in to live in us. We then at that moment have all of God that we are going to get. But the real question is are we letting God have all of us? This is why we are, as True Christians, to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord. How do we do that…get into, dig into the Word of God. He has given us every thing that He wants us to know and experience for now and that is in His Word.
Look here at what the Apostle John said, 1John But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. This anointing we received of Him and it abides in us. The Christian life is not about us. It is absolutely all about Jesus Christ. When we get to heaven every thing there that has been created will be for us. But until that day we press on in truth for the cause of Christ.
Act For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. I went to this church. I heard the music and thought wow! This is amazing stuff. I saw people behave in a very strange way. Barking, screaming, hooting laughter and body shakes. I could feel sexual vibes. At first I liked it because it was kinky. Some of the woman said they would pray for me and a few days later I could feel their prayers.
Deep in the heart of my being. I was having these sexual vibes gush out of my inner being. I deeply loved this experience as it was like or it was spiritual sex. The single woman who were both physically fit and beautiful were the best. As they could pray with more energy. Iwould know when they were praying for me as it felt like we were joined and I think they were enjoying it to because it went on for a long time.
It was beautifully forefilling and completely spiritual. Spiritual sex pleasure beats the real thing. But there was something wrong. I didnt know why but it just started to hurt inside for no reason and the inner part that was feeling so zappo started to hurt and I started to get really confused. Hugs in church from the woman started to become more passionate and while I enjoyed the intimate touch, I wondered if they knew I could feel their parts. I knew this was wrong.
I felt the right thing to do was to put out my hand for a hand shake greeting but even this type of touching became an act of sensuality. I felt it was strange that they would not let go of my hand but would continue holding me. I would always be trying to look at Godd but was and I would be crying out inside and sayinv to God whg are you hurting me. I stopped going to church and I didnt let any of those people touch me. I started to get so angry at God. Their music was so beautiful but I was feeling so unclean inside.
I felt so cheated anx robbed because I so. But I new deep inside my heart this was not God.
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I dont even know how I got to this pages. But when I read I thought hey I know about that stuff. Its happened tl me. I have been a prominant minister in the fire, anointing, for many many years. Featured on stage with all the big names. One day I got a book that was anointed. I suddenly realised that was the anointing I got in South Africa. It was the real Holy Spirit and I saw myself with a very dark black spirit in me. I have shut down the ministry. Went thru hell, my husband has left me. I have fasted till I cant I can not get this spirit out of me. I know I am under falsehood. Can people pray for me please, I am scared, unclean, unholy and have falsehood in and on me.
Can I hook up wiowth people that know how to break this. Hi Mary, the first thing we need to do is for you to tell us what happened in South Africa when you received the so-called anointing and from whom. We also need to know the title and the author of the book which you said was anointed. Is it possible that those who were living by the fruit of the spirit or that were living by the law of Moses were the one that Jesus was storing in the barns?
And the He meant that those that were corrupt or living sinful lives or had no knowledge of God at all were the ones that He was going to burn up with inextinguishable fire? Everyone in Acts who came to believe and received the Holy Spirit and began fellowshipping and caring for one another, selling belongings, praising God, speaking in tongues and others understanding, etc… My point being and as a reminder I say this…Jesus did not go to the homes of the Holy and Righteous, no, He went to the homes and places where He was needed most. No, Jesus did not only visit the sick, the sinners, the Samaritans, the Gentiles, etc.
He came and died for everyone. You do receive the Holy Spirit when you accept Christ as your saviour. Are you still around? Please answer us. This book, do you still have it? If so please tear it up and throw it away. Along with every other book you have, pamphlet, workshop docs, CDs, DVDs, everything excluding the bible of course tear them up, break them and throw them away.
Please try remember them all. I believe Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God was my substitute when He died on the cross for me. I believe your shed blood Lord Jesus washes way my all my sins. Please forgive me of all my sins, I repent Heavenly father earnestly for every single one of them. I want to thank you for the forgiveness of my sins, and the glorious gift of salvation and everlasting life, because of your merciful grace……Here is a my list of sins that I want to mention to You one by one Lord Jesus that I need deliverance from, and I ask that you please removed all demonic affliction from me, and break all demonic chains over evil over my life.
Start listing your sin books, personal life, ministry, people who laid hands on you, false baptism, speaking in tongues, everything one my one and ask Jesus to remove ALL demons from you and break ALL chains of demonic force over your life. Mention that any sins that you did not mention because you forgot about them, Jesus must please deliver you from them and break all chains over you.
Afterwards thank Jesus Christ for your deliverance and saving your life:. Keep saying this until all demonic manifestations have left your home. Thank Jesus Christ from the bottom of your heart and worship him through thanking Him for what He has done for you — Start reading your bible not other books. Some here make it sound like we should have no feelings of our senses concerning the Holy Spirit. I see the dangers of inviting demons and being deceived. Christ indeed Baptized with the Holy Spirit. I do not conform to the belief that the first sign of Baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues.
Actually the strange Fire was the first sign. That was an apostolistic sign and was done at the time the Holy Spirit was sent down to us this generation. But Spiritual gifts have not stopped with the apostles. I refer you to. Here is the first few verses please read Chapter before and after and the whole of 12 for context. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Mat There is nothing wrong praying to God asking Him to help you find a wife, however praying to God to ask Him to make a girl like you is not right, you may as well go to a witchdoctor and get him to cast a spell for you over the girl you like that she returns the feelings.
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God wont make someone like you because you want them too like you. He will however sent the right girl to you that you need not want. In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said , out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh Acts to Can you please rerad this as its lenghty. Were you slain in the spirit when you had this experience? Did you begin to speak in tongues. Give me a little more info, please. I know that Kudalini is a demonic spirit that has nothing to do with the Spirit of God. The enemy will always counterfeit the things of God to bring confusion or to have of put down and not operate according to how God has ordained his Body to.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. God the same yesterday, today and forever. Just because we cannot wrap are little minds around the fact that God can use us and choose to manifest himself through us does not mean that His power is not in operation today. Some of you are just like the Pharisees calling what is of God ungodly. They did the same thing to Jesus when He operated in power by casting out demons, healing the sick, etc. They said He was operating under the influence of Satan. A religious spirit will always deny the existence and power of God.
It is always those whose relationship is based totally on head knowledge that have a problem with tapping into the Spirit of God. I still have not seen you give an answer to scripture that was posted regarding the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. May God open your eyes of understanding and help you see beyond the natural and see with spiritual eyesight. That is a WOF lie, of course it operates, you go to Jesus Christ in prayer, you do not go to a faith healer. Do you have a problem with going directly to Jesus Christ in prayer? You readily agree that the devil and his demonic spirits are able to counterfeit the Spirit of God but refuse to acknowledge that we must test the spirits?
How does that work for you? And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind , that ye may pove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Your mind is your head knowledge which you glean from Scripture. Anton Lavey wrote the Satanic Bible, but it does not mean anything because he should have written a Satanic Bible II to let people know he was serious in his first book. How about this one, when Eve at the fruit in the garden of Eden, she should have eaten a second fruit in order to let God know she was SERIOUS when she took a bite from the first fruit..
You quote half a verse and misunderstand the Bible completely. First of all, shouting on this site is not permitted. Please turn your caps lock OFF the next time you write a comment. You are definitely not honoring and serving Jesus Christ when you follow false doctrine, In fact the Bible says,. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. You are right, we are not going to take your word for it. You are in trouble Irene. Reject this spirit now and be genuinely saved or face the consequences. And what is is that you were after that God told you NO? God will not give you power, but Satan will and you got your wish. You are in deep trouble Irene, reject this spirit. I am not judging you, I care enough about you to warn you this is called biblical love , you are in trouble, you have been fooled by a false spirit.
So your telling me there is an evil spirit that pretends to be the holy spirit. People from drugs and alcohol. Cures diseases. Please humble yourself before God. Jesus told you satan wouldnt go against his own kingdom. I dont like how you made me question the spirit inside of me. Its Jesus. Spirit and he loves me and cured me of my diseases and addictions. That is not of the devil! You blaspheme my savior. Please repent and also please humble yourself. Its like when i read your comments i can just tell your angry and rude and ill pray that angry religious spirit leaves you.
In the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Also Jesus. Said lay hands on the sick and cast out devils. So we can go directly to him or go to a man or woman of great faith in Christ Jesus and they LAY hands. All to the glory of God. Matthew For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders ; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. So as you can see from the word of God, Satan can perform wonderful signs and wonders, to the point that possibly even Christians can be fooled into thinking they are from God.
Yes this false spirit does all this, heals, deliverers etc but it does not give glory to Jesus Christ but to a false Christ. Because you disobey God you give glory to a false Christ, not Jesus Christ of the bible. Jesus Christ of the bible tells you that the Holy Spirit does not do the things you believe it does; it does not cause warmth and feelings of electricity or example and He does not slay people in the spirit.
Jesus Christ does the healing, not the Holy Spirit, this false spirit in you is the one that healed you and what was the aim? To make you believe wholeheartedly in the doctrine of demons you are believing in and you will spiral downward into more false teaching to the point where you wont be able to get out. Satan will be upset if you question him the spirit in you , the Holy Spirit points you to scripture :. Re-read this article again and tell me, why there are no verses in the bible that explain away the way the false spirit operates?
For instance why does the bible not say that the Holy Spirit makes you feel warm? And it gives you feelings of electricity? And it makes you laugh? Please go and search the bible find to find out if this is how the Holy Spirit operates — Satan will not want you to go look in the bible, the Holy Spirit will always point you to the bible. Luke — If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Thats what i asked for and recieved. I said nothing about electricity. His yoke is light. Blasts demons off me and gives me peace and joy. And yes sonetimes it makes me laugh. But thats good because if it didnt i wouldnt laugh. Because im serious about being holy. Hating evil and abstaining from it. And not fellowshipping with the world or laughing at what they laugh at. So i dont laugh much cept when the lord makes me smile or lAugh just have joy in my dark times. Liberty is freedom. Thus Jesus.
Spirit heals of of everything. Romans — Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. That verse allows me to smile and laugh. Isaiah — And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; i fear and love Jesus Christ.
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The holy spirit heals. The mistake most Christians make is to believe that when they pray for the gift of the Holy Spirit that God gives them the Holy Spirit Himself.
Believers of today should never ask or pray for the Holy Spirit to be given to them as a gift because the prayer of the disciples for the Holy Spirit was answered at Pentecost. As far as the gifts of the Holy Spirit is concerned, He the Holy Spirit gives his gifts as He wills and not as we want Him to give to us. The lesson in Luke does not teach us that we can ask or pray for any gift and expect Him to give it to us because our own perception of those gifts is that they are good.
For instance, we cannot ask God to give us the gift of prosperity a lot of money because we think it is a good gift. He knows better and may not give us the money we ask or pray for because in his estimate it is not a good gift because it may stifle our spiritual growth in Him. The Israelite prayed for food and, yes, God sent them the food but look what happened to them. They soon forgat his works; they waited not for his counsel: But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, and tempted God in the desert. And he gave them their request; but sent leanness into their soul. Psalm There were no scholastics nor Montanists during Vedic times, nor yet far later in China.
But Christian theology had to be protected and saved. This was only natural. But why should truth be sacrificed in order to protect from destruction the lucubrations of Christian theologians? The princeps aeris hujus, the "prince of the air" of St. Paul, is not the devil, but the effects of the astral light, as Eliphas Levi correctly explains. The Devil is not "the God of this period, " as he says, for it is the deity of every age and period, since man appeared on earth, and matter, in its countless forms and states, had to fight for its evanescent existence against other disintegrating Forces.
The "Dragon" is simply the symbol of the cycle and of the "Sons of Manvantaric Eternity," who had descended on earth during a certain epoch of its formative period. The "clouds of smoke" are a geological phenomenon. The "third part of the stars of heaven" cast down to the earth -- refers to the divine Monads, the Spirits of the Stars in Astrology that circumambulate our globe; i. This sentence, qui circumambulat terram , however, is again referred to the DEVIL in theology, the mythical father of Evil being said to "fall like lightning.
In all the ancient cosmogonies light comes from darkness. In Egypt, as elsewhere, darkness was "the principle of all things. The Egyptians and the Chaldeans referred the birth of their divine Dynasties to that period when creative Earth was in her last final throes, in giving birth to her prehistoric mountain ranges, which have since disappeared, her seas and her continents. Her face was covered with "deep Darkness and in that Secondary Chaos was the principle of all things" that developed on the globe later on.
And our geologists have ascertained that there was such a terrestrial conflagration in the early geological periods, several hundred millions of years ago. As to the tradition itself, every country and nation had it, each under its respective national form. The Celestials have a whole literature upon the subject. In King, it is said that in consequence of a rebellion against Ti of a proud Spirit who said he was Ti himself, seven choirs of celestial spirits were exiled upon earth, which "brought a change in all nature, heaven itself bending down and uniting with earth.
Chinese cosmogonies have their "Lord of the Flame" and their "Celestial Virgin," with little "Spirits to help and minister to her; and big Spirits to fight those who are the enemies of other gods. The best proof one can offer to Christian Theologians that the esoteric meaning in the Bible -- in both Testaments -- was the assertion of the same idea as in our Archaic teachings -- to wit, that the "Fall of the Angels" referred simply to the incarnation of angels "who had broken through the Seven Circles" -- is found in the Zohar.
And it says in the Agrippa MMS. They fell like rootless trees, and were seen no more: for they were the Shadow of the Shadow " ; to wit, the chhaya of the Shadowy Pitris. Vide about the "Kings of Edom. Temporary stars are only variable stars, and it is believed even that the new stars of Kepler and Tycho Brahe may still be seen. Every sentence in the ancient cosmogonies, unfolds to him who can read between the lines the identity of the ideas, though under different garbs.
The first lesson taught in Esoteric philosophy is, that the incognizable Cause does not put forth evolution, whether consciously or unconsciously, but only exhibits periodically different aspects of itself to the perception of finite Minds. Now the collective Mind -- the Universal -- composed of various and numberless Hosts of Creative Powers, however infinite in manifested Time, is still finite when contrasted with the unborn and undecaying Space in its supreme essential aspect.
That which is finite cannot be perfect. Therefore there are inferior Beings among those Hosts, but there never were any devils or "disobedient Angels," for the simple reason that they are all governed by Law. The Asuras who incarnated call them by any other name , followed in this a law as implacable as any other. They had manifested prior to the Pitris, and as time in Space proceeds in Cycles, their turn had come -- hence the numerous allegories Vide "Demon est Deus inversus," Part II.
The name of Asura was first given by the Brahmans indiscriminately to those who opposed their mummeries and sacrifices, as the great Asura called "Asurendra" did. It is to those ages, probably, that the origin of the idea of the demon, as opposer and adversary, has to be traced. The Hebrew Elohim, called in the translations "God," and who create "light," are identical with the Aryan Asuras. They are also referred to as the "Sons of Darkness" as a philosophical and logical contrast to light immutable and eternal.
The earliest Zoroastrians did not believe in Evil or Darkness being co-eternal with Good or Light, and they give the same interpretation. The six Amshaspends seven with himself, chief of all , the primitive Spiritual Angels and Men are collectively his Logos. The Zoroastrian Amshaspends create the world in six days or periods also, and rest on the Seventh; whereas that Seventh is the first period or "day," in esoteric philosophy, Primary creation in the Aryan cosmogony.
It is that intermediate AEon which is the Prologue to creation, and which stands on the borderland between the uncreated eternal Causation and the produced finite effects; a state of nascent activity and energy as the first aspect of the eternal immutable Quiescence.
In Genesis , on which no metaphysical energy has been spent, but only an extraordinary acuteness and ingenuity to veil the esoteric Truth, "Creation" begins at the third stage of manifestation. They are identical with all the other Creators. But even in Genesis that period is hinted at by the abruptness of the picture, and the " darkness " that was on the face of the deep.
The Alahim are shown to "create" -- that is to say, to build or to produce the two or "double heaven" not Heaven and Earth ; which means, in so many words, that they separated the upper manifested angelic heaven, or plane of consciousness, from the lower or terrestrial plane; the to us eternal and immutable AEons from those periods that are in space, time and duration; Heaven from Earth, the unknown from the KNOWN -- to the profane.
As said of the Adityas by Roth: "they are neither sun, nor moon, nor stars, nor dawn, but the eternal sustainers of this luminous life which exists as it were behind all these phenomena. And now comes the second portion of the passage, or rather of two passages merged into one to conceal the full meaning. Those who were born within the sphere of operation were "the brothers who loved him well.
Nevertheless, the spirituality of those much abused "Sons of Light" which is Darkness, must be evidently as great in comparison with that of the Angels next in order, as the ethereality of the latter would be, when contrasted with the density of the human body. Perchance, this is justified on that principle of the Scientific theory which teaches us about light and sound and the effect of two waves of equal length meeting. The latter is sometimes applied to the very first emanation, but in several systems it proceeds from the first androgyne or double ray produced at the beginning by the unseen.
Philo depicts this wisdom as male and female. But though its first manifestation had a beginning, for it proceeded from Oulom Aion, time , the highest of the AEons when emitted from the Father, it had remained with him before all creations, for it is part of him. As the old Magian books explain it, the whole event becomes clear. A thing can only exist through its opposite -- Hegel teaches us, and only a little philosophy and spirituality are needed to comprehend the origin of the later dogma, which is so truly satanic and infernal in its cold and cruel wickedness.
The Magians accounted for the origin of evil in their exoteric teachings in this way. Light, say they, produced several Beings, all of them spiritual, luminous, and powerful. He doubted, and by that doubt he became dark. This is a little nearer to the truth, but still wide of the mark. There was no "EVIL thought" that originated the opposing Power, but simply THOUGHT per se; something which, being cogitative, and containing design and purpose, is therefore finite, and must thus find itself naturally in opposition to pure quiescence, the as natural state of absolute Spirituality and Perfection.
It was simply the law of Evolution that asserted itself; the progress of mental unfolding, differentiated from spirit, involved and entangled already with matter, into which it is irresistibly drawn. The Zohar gives it very suggestively. Herbert Spencer. I tell you what -- He held me, last night, at least nine hours In reckoning up the several devils' names. Le Lucifer de la Cabale n'est pas un ange maudit et foudroye; c'est l'ange qui eclaire et qui regenere en tombant.
Does it seem extravagant, cruel, blasphemous? In the city of New York, on the ninth day of April, -- that is to say, in the last quarter of what is proudly styled the century of discovery and the age of illumination -- the following scandalous ideas were broached. We quote from the report in the Sun of the following morning: "The Baptist preachers met yesterday in the Mariners' Chapel, in Oliver Street. Several foreign missionaries were present. John W. Sarles, of Brooklyn, read an essay, in which he maintained the proposition that all adult heathen, dying without the knowledge of the Gospel, are damned eternally.
Otherwise, the reverend essayist argued, the Gospel is a curse instead of a blessing, the men who crucified Christ served him right, and the whole structure of revealed religion tumbles to the ground. The Hindus were great sinners. One day, after he had preached in the market place, a Brahman got up and said: 'We Hindus beat the world in lying, but this man beats us. How can he say that God loves us? Look at the poisonous serpents, tigers, lions, and all kinds of dangerous animals around us. If God loves us, why doesn't He take them away? Pixley, of Hamilton, N. Can we wonder that intelligent persons prefer annihilation to a faith encumbered by such a monstrous doctrine?
We doubt whether any respectable Brahman would have confessed to the vice of lying -- an art cultivated only in those portions of British India where the most Christians are found. In fact, it would not be difficult to trace a chain of similar testimony from ancient times down to our own. Arrian says no Indian was ever accused of falsehood. Hwen T'sang ascribes to the people of India eminent uprightness, honesty, and disinterestedness.
Friar Jordanus circa says the people of Lesser India Sindh and Western India were true in speech and eminent in justice; and we may also refer to the high character given to the Hindus by Abul Fazl. But after years of European trade, indeed, we find a sad deterioration. Yet Pallas, in the last century, noticing the Bamyan colony at Astrakhan, says its members were notable for an upright dealing that made them greatly preferable to Armenians. And that wise and admirable public servant, the late Sir William Sleeman, in our own time, has said that he knew no class of men in the world more strictly honorable than the mercantile classes of India.
But we challenge any honest man in the wide world to say whether he thinks the Brahman was far from the truth in saying of the missionary Stoddard, "this man beats us all" in lying. What else would he say, if the latter preached to them the doctrine of eternal damnation, because, indeed, they had passed their lives without reading a Jewish book of which they never heard, or asked salvation of a Christ whose existence they never suspected! But Baptist clergymen who need a few thousand dollars must devise terrifying sensations to fire the congregational heart.
We abstain, as a rule, from giving our own experience when we can call acceptable witnesses, and so, upon reading missionary Stoddard's outrageous remarks, we requested our acquaintance, Mr. William L. This gentleman's father and grandfather were British army officers, and he himself was born in India, and enjoyed life-long opportunities to learn what the general opinion among the English is of these religious propagandists. Following is his communication in reply to our letter: "You ask me for my opinion of the Christian missionaries in India. In all the years I spent there, I never spoke to a single missionary.
They were not in society, and, from what I heard of their proceedings and could see for myself, I don't wonder at it. Their influence on the natives is bad. Their converts are worthless, and, as a rule, of the lowest class; nor do they improve by conversion. No respectable family will employ Christian servants. They lie, they steal, they are unclean -- and dirt is certainly not a Hindu vice; they drink -- and no decent native of any other belief ever touches intoxicating liquor; they are outcasts from their own people and utterly despicable.
Their new teachers set them a poor example of consistency. While holding forth to the Pariah that God makes no distinction of persons, they boast intolerably over the stray Brahmans, who, very much "off color," occasionally, at long intervals, fall into the clutches of these hypocrites. When they come home to recover their health, shattered, as they say, by their arduous labors -- which they seem to be able to afford to do quite frequently, when supposed richer people cannot -- they tell childish stories on platforms, exhibit idols as procured with infinite difficulty, which is quite absurd, and give an account of their imaginary hardships which is perfectly harrowing but untrue from beginning to end.
I lived some years in India myself, and nearly all my blood-relations have passed or will pass the best years of their lives there. I know hundreds of British officials, and I never heard from one of them a single word in favor of the missionaries. Natives of any position look on them with the supremest contempt, although suffering chronic exasperation from their arrogant aggressiveness; and the British Government, which continues endowments to Pagodas, granted by the East India Company, and which supports unsectarian education, gives them no countenance whatever.
Protected from personal violence, they yelp and bark at natives and Europeans alike, after the fashion of ill-conditioned curs. Often recruited from the poorest specimens of theological fanaticism, they are regarded on all sides as mischievous. Their rabid, reckless, vulgar, and offensive propagandism caused the great Mutiny of They are noisome humbugs. It is regarded as less impious, less infidel, to doubt the personal existence of the Holy Ghost, or the equal Godhead of Jesus, than to question the personality of the Devil. But a summary of Koheleth is well-nigh forgotten. Who ever quotes the golden words of the prophet Micah, or seems to care for the exposition of the Law, as given by Jesus himself?
The "bull's eye" in the target of Modern Christianity is in the simple phrase to "fear the Devil. If Des Mousseaux maintains the objective reality of spiritual phenomena with such an unrelenting ardor, it is because, in his opinion, the latter are the most direct evidence of the Devil at work.
The Chevalier is more Catholic than the Pope; and his logic and deductions from never-to-be and non-established premises are unique, and prove once more that the creed offered by us is the one which expresses the Catholic belief most eloquently. For, from whom did that Saviour come to save us? And then, there would be no more Redeemer; for from whom or what could that Redeemer redeem us?
Hence, there would be no more Christianity!! We pray thee do not abandon such pious Christians as the Chevalier des Mousseaux and some Baptist clergymen!! For our part, we would rather remember the wise words of J. Jesus was the first to use the word "legion" when speaking of them; and it is on this ground that M. In the first place, the synagogue, far from having expired, is flourishing at the present day in nearly every town of Europe, America, and Asia; and of all churches in Christian cities, it is the most firmly established, as well as the best behaved.
Further -- while no one will deny that many Christian Fathers were born into the world always, of course, excepting the twelve fictitious Bishops of Rome, who were never born at all , every person who will take the trouble to read the works of the Platonists of the old Academy, who were theurgists before Iamblichus, will recognize therein the origin of Christian Demonology as well as the Angelology, the allegorical meaning of which was completely distorted by the Fathers. Then it could hardly be admitted that the said Fathers ever shone, except, perhaps, in the refulgence of their extreme ignorance.
The Reverend Dr. Shuckford, who passed the better part of his life trying to reconcile their contradictions and absurdities, was finally driven to abandon the whole thing in despair. The ignorance of the champions of Plato must indeed appear rare and precious by comparison with the fathomless profundity of Augustine, "the giant of learning and erudition," who scouted the sphericity of the earth, for, if true, it would prevent the antipodes from seeing the Lord Christ when he descended from heaven at the second advent; or, of Lactantius, who rejects with pious horror Pliny's identical theory, on the remarkable ground that it would make the trees at the other side of the earth grow and the men walk with their heads downward; or, again, of Cosmas-Indicopleustes, whose orthodox system of geography is embalmed in his "Christian topography"; or, finally, of Bede, who assured the world that the heaven "is tempered with glacial waters, lest it should be set on fire" -- a benign dispensation of Providence, most likely to prevent the radiance of their learning from setting the sky ablaze!
Be this as it may, these resplendent Fathers certainly did borrow their notions of the "spirits of darkness" from the Jewish kabalists and Pagan theurgists, with the difference, however, that they disfigured and outdid in absurdity all that the wildest fancy of the Hindu, Greek, and Roman rabble had ever created. There is not a dev in the Persian Pandaimonion half so preposterous, as a conception, as des Mousseaux's Incubus revamped from Augustine.
Typhon, symbolized as an ass , appears a philosopher in comparison with the devil caught by the Normandy peasant in a key-hole; and it is certainly not Ahriman or the Hindu Vritra who would run away in rage and dismay, when addressed as St. Satan, by a native Luther. The Devil is the patron genius of theological Christianity. So "holy and reverend is his name" in modern conception, that it may not, except occasionally from the pulpit, be uttered in ears polite. In like manner, anciently, it was not lawful to speak the sacred names or repeat the jargon of the Mysteries, except in the sacred cloister.
We hardly know the names of the Samothracian gods, but cannot tell precisely the number of the Kabeiri. The Egyptians considered it blasphemous to utter the title of the gods of their secret rites. Even now, the Brahman only pronounces the syllable Om in silent thought, and the Rabbi, the Ineffable Name,. A similar glamour bids fair, it will be perceived, to gather round the designation of the dark personage of whom we are treating; and in the familiar handling, we shall be very likely to shock the peculiar sensibilities of many who will consider a free mentioning of the Devil's names as blasphemy -- the sin of sins, that "hath never forgiveness.
He was answered by a clergyman, who concluded the reply with the deprecatory expression, "I fear that he has denied his Saviour. In his conception of the matter, the denying of the personal objective existence of the Devil was itself "the sin against the Holy Ghost. In the exceptions which we take to this notion, we protest that we do not attack true religion or sincere piety. We are only carrying on a controversy with human dogmas. Perhaps in doing this we resemble Don Quixote, because these things are only windmills.
They have too much at stake. If the Christian Church should abandon or even modify the dogma of an anthropomorphic devil, it would be like pulling the bottom card from under a castle of cards. The structure would fall. The clergymen to whom we have alluded perceived that upon the relinquishing of Satan as a personal devil, the dogma of Jesus Christ as the second deity in their trinity must go over in the same catastrophe. Incredible, or even horrifying, as it may seem, the Roman Church bases its doctrine of the godhood of Christ entirely upon the satanism of the fallen archangel.
We have the testimony of Father Ventura, who proclaims the vital importance of this dogma to the Catholics. The Reverend Father Ventura, the illustrious ex-general of the Theatins, certifies that the Chevalier des Mousseaux, by his treatise, Moeurs et Pratiques des Demons , has deserved well of mankind, and still more of the most Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. With this voucher, the noble Chevalier, it will be perceived, "speaks as one having authority. Many zealous and earnest souls have revolted at the monstrous dogma of John Calvin, the popekin of Geneva, that sin is the necessary cause of the greatest good.
It was bolstered up, nevertheless, by logic like that of des Mousseaux, and illustrated by the same dogmas. The execution of Jesus, the god-man, on the cross, was the most prodigious crime in the universe, yet it was necessary that mankind -- those predestinated to ever lasting life -- might be saved. D'Aubignee cites the quotation by Martin Luther from the canon, and makes him exclaim, in ecstatic rapture: " O beata culpa, qui talem meruisti redemptorem! We now perceive that the dogma which had appeared so monstrous is, after all, the doctrine of Pope, Calvin, and Luther alike -- that the three are one.
Mahomet and his disciples, who held Jesus in great respect as a prophet, remarks Eliphas Levi, used to utter, when speaking of Christians, the following remarkable words: "Jesus of Nazareth was verily a true prophet of Allah and a grand man; but lo! If he falls, then, in their conception, all is lost, and chaos must come again. This dogma of the Devil and redemption seems to be based upon two passages in the New Testament : "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the Devil.
And the great Dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world. The first inquiry is whether the term Devil , as here used, actually represents the malignant Deity of the Christians, or an antagonistic, blind force -- the dark side of nature. By the latter we are not to understand the manifestation of any evil principle that is malum in se, but only the shadow of the Light, so to say.
The theories of the kabalists treat of it as a force which is antagonistic, but at the same time essential to the vitality, evolving, and vigor of the good principle. Plants would perish in their first stage of existence, if they were kept exposed to a constant sunlight; the night alternating with the day is essential to their healthy growth and development.
Goodness, likewise, would speedily cease to be such, were it not alternated by its opposite. In human nature, evil denotes the antagonism of matter to the spiritual, and each is accordingly purified thereby. In the cosmos, the equilibrium must be preserved; the operation of the two contraries produce harmony, like the centripetal and centrifugal forces, and are necessary to each other. If one is arrested, the action of the other will immediately become destructive. This personification, denominated Satan , is to be contemplated from three different planes: the Old Testament, the Christian Fathers, and the ancient Gentile altitude.
He is supposed to have been represented by the Serpent in the Garden of Eden; nevertheless, the epithet of Satan is nowhere in the Hebrew sacred writings applied to that or any other variety of ophidian. Indeed, the character of Satan himself is introduced in the 1st book of Chronicles in the act of instigating King David to number the Israelitish people, an act elsewhere declared specifically to have been moved by Jehovah himself. Another mention of Satan is found in the prophecies of Zechariah. This book was written at a period subsequent to the Jewish colonization of Palestine, and hence, the Asideans may fairly be supposed to have brought the personification thither from the East.
It is well-known that this body of sectaries were deeply imbued with the Mazdean notions; and that they represented Ahriman or Anra-manyas by the god-names of Syria. The prophet began his labors in Judea in the second year of Darius Hystaspes, the restorer of the Mazdean worship. He thus describes the encounter with Satan: "He showed me Joshua the high-priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary. And the Lord said unto Satan: 'The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
It is probable that the fiery serpents or Seraphim mentioned in the twenty-first chapter of the book of Numbers were the same as the Levites, or Ophite tribe. Compare Exodus xxxii. The names Heva, , Hivi or Hivite, , and Levi , all signify a serpent; and it is a curious fact that the Hivites, or serpent-tribe of Palestine, like the Levites or Ophites of Israel, were ministers to the temples.
The Gibeonites, whom Joshua assigned to the service of the sanctuary, were Hivites. A pun or play on words is noticeable; "adversary" is associated with "Satan," as if from , to oppose. We apprehend that this passage which we have quoted is symbolical. There are two allusions in the New Testament that indicate that it was so regarded.
The Catholic Epistle of Jude refers to it in this peculiar language: "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the Devil, he disputed about the body of Moses, did not venture to utter to him a reviling judgment [[ Krisin epenegkein Blasphemias ] ] , but said, 'The Lord rebuke thee. A comparison between these two passages renders it plain that "the body of Moses" over which they contended was Palestine, which as "the land of the Hittites" was the peculiar domain of Seth, their tutelar god. Michael, as the champion of the Jehovah-worship, contended with the Devil or Adversary, but left judgment to his superior.
Belial is not entitled to the distinction of either god or devil.
If Belial must be personified to please our religious friends, we would be obliged to make him perfectly distinct from Satan, and to consider him as a sort of spiritual "Diakka. Asmodeus is no Jewish spirit at all, his origin being purely Persian. Plutarch makes him the same as Typhon. Hence he was god of Goshen and Palestine, the countries occupied by the Israelites.
He was not an Aryan or Vedic deity. Perhaps Surya was the divinity intended. Plutarch remarks that by Typhon was understood anything violent, unruly, and disorderly. The overflowing of the Nile was called by the Egyptians Typhon. Lower Egypt is very flat, and any mounds built along the river to prevent the frequent inundations, were called Typhonian or Taphos; hence, the origin of Typhon. Plutarch, who was a rigid, orthodox Greek, and never known to much compliment the Egyptians, testifies in his Isis and Osiris, to the fact that, far from worshipping the Devil of which Christians accused them , they despised more than they dreaded Typhon.
In his symbol of the opposing, obstinate power of nature, they believed him to be a poor, struggling, half-dead divinity. Thus, even at that remote age, we see the ancients already too enlightened to believe in a personal devil. As Typhon was represented in one of his symbols under the figure of an ass at the festival of the sun's sacrifices, the Egyptian priests exhorted the faithful worshippers not to carry gold ornaments upon their bodies for fear of giving food to the ass!
Three and a half centuries before Christ, Plato expressed his opinion of evil by saying that "there is in matter a blind, refractory force, which resists the will of the Great Artificer. His identity with Typhon can scarcely be doubted upon reading the account in Job of his appearance with the sons of God, before the Lord. He accuses Job of a readiness to curse the Lord to his face upon sufficient provocation. So Typhon, in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, figures as the accuser.
The resemblance extends even to the names, for one of Typhon's appellations was Seth, or Seph; as Satan, in Hebrew, means an adversary. In Arabic the word is Shatana -- to be adverse, to persecute, and Manetho says he had treacherously murdered Osiris and allied himself with the Shemites the Israelites. This may possibly have originated the fable told by Plutarch, that, from the fight between Horus and Typhon, Typhon, overcome with fright at the mischief he had caused, "fled seven days on an ass, and escaping, begat the boys Ierosolumos and Ioudaios Jerusalem and Judea.
Thus Satan is a later creation, sprung from the overheated fancy of the Fathers of the Church. By some reverse of fortune, to which the gods are subjected in common with mortals, Typhon-Seth tumbled down from the eminence of the deified son of Adam Kadmon, to the degrading position of a subaltern spirit, a mythical demon -- ass. Religious schisms are as little free from the frail pettiness and spiteful feelings of humanity as the partisan quarrels of laymen.
We find a strong instance of the above in the case of the Zoroastrian reform, when Magianism separated from the old faith of the Brahmans. The bright Devas of the Veda became, under the religious reform of Zoroaster, daevas, or evil spirits, of the Avesta. The strange veneration in which the Ophites held the serpent which represented Christos may become less perplexing if the students would but remember that at all ages the serpent was the symbol of divine wisdom, which kills in order to resurrect, destroys but to rebuild the better.
Moses is made a descendant of Levi, a serpent-tribe. Gautama-Buddha is of a serpent-lineage, through the Naga serpent race of kings who reigned in Magadha. Hermes, or the god Taaut Thoth , in his snake-symbol is Tet; and, according to the Ophite legends, Jesus or Christos is born from a snake divine wisdom, or Holy Ghost , i. The red or fiery dragon of the ancient time was the military ensign of the Assyrians. Cyrus adopted it from them when Persia became dominant. The Romans and Byzantines next assumed it; and so the "great red dragon," from being the symbol of Babylon and Nineveh, became that of Rome.
The scene of the probation was the wilderness. In the desert about the Jordan and Dead Sea were the abodes of the "sons of the prophets," and the Essenes. These ascetics used to subject their neophytes to probations, analogous to the tortures of the Mithraic rites; and the temptation of Jesus was evidently a scene of this character. Hence, in the Gospel according to Luke, it is stated that "the Diabolos, having completed the probation, left him for a specific time, [[ achri kairou ] ], and Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee. In this sense the terms Devil and Satan are repeatedly employed.
Thus, when Paul was liable to undue elation by reason of the abundance of revelations or epoptic disclosures, there was given him "a thorn in the flesh, an angel of Satanas," to check him. The story of Satan in the Book of Job is of a similar character. He is introduced among the "Sons of God," presenting themselves before the Lord, as in a Mystic initiation. Micaiah the prophet describes a similar scene, where he "saw the Lord sitting on His throne, and all the host of Heaven standing by Him," with whom He took counsel, which resulted in putting "a lying spirit into the mouth of the prophets of Ahab.
He is stripped of his wealth and family, and smitten with a loathsome disease.
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In his extremity, his wife doubts his integrity, and exhorts him to worship God, as he is about to die. His friends all beset him with accusations, and finally the Lord, the chief hierophant Himself, taxes him with the uttering of words in which there is no wisdom, and with contending with the Almighty.
To this rebuke Job yielded, making this appeal: "I will demand of thee, and thou shalt declare unto me: wherefore do I abhor myself and mourn in dust and ashes? And the Lord turned the captivity of Job. In Numbers xxii, 22 the angel of the Lord is described as acting the part of a Satan to Balaam. It is an opinion of certain writers of merit and learning, that the Satan of the book of Job is a Jewish myth, containing the Mazdean doctrine of the Evil Principle. Haug remarks that "the Zoroastrian religion exhibits a close affinity, or rather identity with the Mosaic religion and Christianity, such as the personality and attributes of the Devil, and the resurrection of the dead.
In the Avesta we read of war between Thraetaona and Azhi-Dahaka, the destroying serpent. Burnouf has endeavored to show that the Vedic myth of Ahi, or the serpent, fighting against the gods, has been gradually euhemerized into "the battle of a pious man against the power of evil," in the Mazdean religion.
By these interpretations Satan would be made identical with Zohak or Azhi-Dahaka, who is a three-headed serpent, with one of the heads a human one.